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		<title>By: CVircillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>CVircillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken Wilber 
This note cracked me up from the start because I too avoided the book and know the stare.  Ready to jump in.  AQAL aside. 
 
We are in the integral age - integrate as many truths as much as possible. Traditions cultures disciplines over time.  
 
HOLON - Everything is a whole thing and yet part of a whole.  
 
Life is not either or.  Spiral dynamics defines different stages of development.  Lets have healthful parts of each to transcend to the second tier without excluding. 
TRANSCEND AND INCLUDE.   
Learn to say YES - AND. 
 
No one is smart enough to be 100% wrong.  I LOVE THIS.  See the partial truth in all.   
 
Witness our perspectives.  
Subject object orientation.   
The Big Idea: Subject-Object orientations. How you see the world is your  
subjective perspective. What you look at through that subjective perspective is the object of  
that subjective perspective. So far so good? Now, here&#8217;s the trick: Can you make your current  
subjective perspective the OBJECT of a NEW perspective?  
 
Don&#039;t become your position. Recognize the truth in another&#039;s perspective. 
 
States and Stages  
Honor the states but build the structure for the next stage.  You must do the work - dig a deep foundation - do the shadow work and the rest erecting each stage.  
 
Egoless does not mean minus personal it means personal plus!  Plug the ego into something bigger.  
 
The integral sage, the nondual sage, is here to show us otherwise. Known generally as &#8216;Tantric,&#8217;  
these sages insist on transcending life by living it. They insist on finding release by engagement,  
finding nirvana in the midst of samsara, finding total liberation by complete immersion.&#8221;  
 
Spirit is both the highest level of holarchy but also the paper in which the entire holarchy is written. 
 
Great Note- Thank you for the gateway note to Ken Wilber. 
 
Christina 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken Wilber<br />
This note cracked me up from the start because I too avoided the book and know the stare.  Ready to jump in.  AQAL aside. </p>
<p>We are in the integral age — integrate as many truths as much as possible. Traditions cultures disciplines over time.  </p>
<p>HOLON — Everything is a whole thing and yet part of a whole.  </p>
<p>Life is not either or.  Spiral dynamics defines different stages of development.  Lets have healthful parts of each to transcend to the second tier without excluding.<br />
TRANSCEND AND INCLUDE.<br />
Learn to say YES — AND. </p>
<p>No one is smart enough to be 100% wrong.  I LOVE THIS.  See the partial truth in all.   </p>
<p>Witness our perspectives.<br />
Subject object orientation.<br />
The Big Idea: Subject-Object orientations. How you see the world is your<br />
subjective perspective. What you look at through that subjective perspective is the object of<br />
that subjective perspective. So far so good? Now, here’s the trick: Can you make your current<br />
subjective perspective the OBJECT of a NEW perspective?  </p>
<p>Don’t become your position. Recognize the truth in another’s perspective. </p>
<p>States and Stages<br />
Honor the states but build the structure for the next stage.  You must do the work — dig a deep foundation — do the shadow work and the rest erecting each stage.  </p>
<p>Egoless does not mean minus personal it means personal plus!  Plug the ego into something bigger.  </p>
<p>The integral sage, the nondual sage, is here to show us otherwise. Known generally as ‘Tantric,’<br />
these sages insist on transcending life by living it. They insist on finding release by engagement,<br />
finding nirvana in the midst of samsara, finding total liberation by complete immersion.”  </p>
<p>Spirit is both the highest level of holarchy but also the paper in which the entire holarchy is written. </p>
<p>Great Note– Thank you for the gateway note to Ken Wilber. </p>
<p>Christina</p>
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		<title>By: JeannetteS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeannetteS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>post 2 of 2 
This Yes and... is def something to use as I witness my own current views and look for a new perspective on things.  The possibilites are endless! 
 
And the states &amp; stages idea is so key to transforming our lives!!  I first came aware of this in the an earlier PN (I believe it was the Big Leap).  I would criticize myself for not advancing and making the same mistakes over and over.  Well it was precisely b/c I wasn&#039;t nourishing the foundation of what I have learned and putting my foundation into practice!  I needed to be reminded of this as I just came back from an incredible retreat in Sedona where parts of me that had been hidden were exposed and I need to make sure they stay exposed! 
 
These notes are incredible in each of their own way.  I feel so amazing :)  </description>
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This Yes and… is def something to use as I witness my own current views and look for a new perspective on things.  The possibilites are endless! </p>
<p>And the states &amp; stages idea is so key to transforming our lives!!  I first came aware of this in the an earlier PN (I believe it was the Big Leap).  I would criticize myself for not advancing and making the same mistakes over and over.  Well it was precisely b/c I wasn’t nourishing the foundation of what I have learned and putting my foundation into practice!  I needed to be reminded of this as I just came back from an incredible retreat in Sedona where parts of me that had been hidden were exposed and I need to make sure they stay exposed! </p>
<p>These notes are incredible in each of their own way.  I feel so amazing <img src='http://daily.finerminds.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JeannetteS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeannetteS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>post 1 of 2 
Hi everyone!  Finally ready to post more on Ken Wilber. 
This note literally shook me to me core!  I was reviewing my notes at work and I almost started to cry.  But then afterwards I got this amazing feeling that I already have what I want.  I always have a hard time explaining these moments but they just seem right. 
 
I love the integral philosophy idea and is something that I have been practicing for many years.  This is one of the main reasons why I love to travel so much.  I love immersing myself in other cultures and interacing with people from all over the world.  I&#039;m just fascinated with how different yet similar we all are.  I guess that&#039;s the holon perspective :) 
 
Love Love Love the &quot;Yes and...&quot; perspective.  For a very long time I was stuck in the either/or view (and honestly still am in certain areas of my life) but with help my amazing mentors (like PN!) I am letting go, opening up, going with the flow and really listeing and embracing the world around me.  It&#039;s amazing how such a small shift in thinking can make one&#039;s view so much wider and brighter.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>post 1 of 2<br />
Hi everyone!  Finally ready to post more on Ken Wilber.<br />
This note literally shook me to me core!  I was reviewing my notes at work and I almost started to cry.  But then afterwards I got this amazing feeling that I already have what I want.  I always have a hard time explaining these moments but they just seem right. </p>
<p>I love the integral philosophy idea and is something that I have been practicing for many years.  This is one of the main reasons why I love to travel so much.  I love immersing myself in other cultures and interacing with people from all over the world.  I’m just fascinated with how different yet similar we all are.  I guess that’s the holon perspective <img src='http://daily.finerminds.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Love Love Love the “Yes and…” perspective.  For a very long time I was stuck in the either/or view (and honestly still am in certain areas of my life) but with help my amazing mentors (like PN!) I am letting go, opening up, going with the flow and really listeing and embracing the world around me.  It’s amazing how such a small shift in thinking can make one’s view so much wider and brighter.</p>
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		<title>By: StephanieE</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 16:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great...my calendar looks like this : PN Day 29, WFFTS Day 34, SPPP Day 3. This is how I started my 2010, and it has been, how do you say, a &quot;wicked pissa&quot;?! I look forward to checking out the Oneness Experiment further...thanks again for sharing! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great…my calendar looks like this : PN Day 29, WFFTS Day 34, SPPP Day 3. This is how I started my 2010, and it has been, how do you say, a “wicked pissa”?! I look forward to checking out the Oneness Experiment further…thanks again for sharing!</p>
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		<title>By: waltww</title>
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		<dc:creator>waltww</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 00:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been reading Wiber&#039;s books for years and I often have trouble understanding just what he is saying. I had occasion to give a sermon at our Unitarian Universalist church about the difference between the soul and spirit and I heavily quoted him. In that case I felt he guided me quite well. But sometimes when he is organizing everything he loses me. I personally can&#039;t track more than a few things at a time. I think his philosophy of Integral Life Practice makes sense and I am embracing it as a modern evolution of consciousness. In that area though, I&#039;ve been consulting Steve McIntosh&#039;s book Integral Consciousness and the Future of Evolution as well as the Integral Life Practice by some of Wilber&#039;s followers. I like Wilber best when he is speaking about spirituality but not so much when he talks about everything and what quadrant I need to live in. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading Wiber’s books for years and I often have trouble understanding just what he is saying. I had occasion to give a sermon at our Unitarian Universalist church about the difference between the soul and spirit and I heavily quoted him. In that case I felt he guided me quite well. But sometimes when he is organizing everything he loses me. I personally can’t track more than a few things at a time. I think his philosophy of Integral Life Practice makes sense and I am embracing it as a modern evolution of consciousness. In that area though, I’ve been consulting Steve McIntosh’s book Integral Consciousness and the Future of Evolution as well as the Integral Life Practice by some of Wilber’s followers. I like Wilber best when he is speaking about spirituality but not so much when he talks about everything and what quadrant I need to live in.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, 
You elaborated beautifully on exactly what I was feeling,too...thanks for your insightful comments! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,<br />
You elaborated beautifully on exactly what I was feeling,too…thanks for your insightful comments!</p>
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		<title>By: AF Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>AF Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Oneness has ended - it was 40 days and didn&#039;t take weekends off. 
So many days the quotes and meditations from The Proof aligned with the PN of the day. It was wicked pissa! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Oneness has ended — it was 40 days and didn’t take weekends off.<br />
So many days the quotes and meditations from The Proof aligned with the PN of the day. It was wicked pissa!</p>
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		<title>By: rossp</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one is smart enough to be  100% wrong...great reminder / phrasing on how to acknowledge that other people are living their own truths 
 
State vs. stage is powerful.  I have the bad habit of jumping in with both feet to a new practice, getting all excited about the possibilities, and then discovering that the level of energy can&#039;t be maintained.    I like the idea of building structures -- ties in to Tony Robins &quot;rituals&quot; and Marci Shimoff&#039;s take baby steps / employ kaizen approach. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is smart enough to be  100% wrong…great reminder / phrasing on how to acknowledge that other people are living their own truths </p>
<p>State vs. stage is powerful.  I have the bad habit of jumping in with both feet to a new practice, getting all excited about the possibilities, and then discovering that the level of energy can’t be maintained.    I like the idea of building structures — ties in to Tony Robins “rituals” and Marci Shimoff’s take baby steps / employ kaizen approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too!  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too!</p>
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		<title>By: Jayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree 100% Stephanie! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree 100% Stephanie!</p>
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